Steward requests/Checkuser/2023-10

Requests

Lipfik@sk.wikipedia

Hi Template:Ping! Could you please be more specific? We need the details that indicate the suspicion that these two users are socks with abusive behavior, so that we can evaluate whether the requirements exist to carry out a justified check. Indeed, at present we have no reason to do so (e.g. users almost never edit on the same pages and we don't have further details). Thanks for your understanding! --Superpes15 (talk) 10:39, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

Hi Superpes15. See abuse filter log [1] regarding award attempts (failed due to local rule, disallowing edits of other user pages by new users), then edit [2]. And yes, they do edit the same range of topics generally (arts, film) and even the same types of edit (hyphen/dash typography, etc.) actually. --Teslaton (talk) 10:49, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

Template:Ping Thanks for providing us with the details. The point is: What guidelines would the user be violating by using multiple accounts that would make sockpuppeting abusive (basically they're allowed to have multiple users, as long as they are not used to alter consensus or are misused, for example participating in the same discussions/pages or avoiding scrutiny)? I mean, it could be a legitimate sock, or am I missing something? You said "self-awarding", but I only see a signature in the user page (which simply means "Thanks for your work"), to be honest - even if made by the same person - it seems too little to me to perform a CU! Superpes15 (talk) 15:31, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

Template:Ping For me, whoever cheats in such an infantile matter, will also cheat in more serious matters. And a possible positive result would give the opportunity to remind him strongly that this is undesirable (and to block the sock puppet), i.e. to provide negative feedback right from the start. But never mind, thanks for your effort. --Teslaton (talk) 15:42, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

Absolutely no problem, I understand your point, but the purpose of the CU is limited to fighting disruption, and imho this is not the case. Anyway, I'll leave the request opened for another opinion (so another stew can decide on this if I'm wrong). Thanks :) Superpes15 (talk) 23:45, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

Template:Ping Thank you for your good explanation. I would recommend that you ask them if they are running multiple accounts. If they admit it you can advise them to indicate multiple accounts, if they deny it then this will be a different issue. Perhaps this would be one way to go about handling this request. I will mark this request as not done. --Sotiale (talk) 04:48, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Qqqyyy@zh.wikipedia, Boogi wu@zh.wikipedia

Template:CU request Template:Quote From a technical point of view. The confirmed group looks very related to the group you previously requested and confirmed. Based on current limited data, it is unlikely that Boogi wu has other hidden accounts. --Sotiale (talk) 01:52, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

维基中二群体代表@zh.wikipedia

Template:CU request Template:Quote From a technical point of view. --Sotiale (talk) 03:05, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

Template:PingIs Uchusowie related to this case? --$\int$（☎） 03:10, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

FabioLorenzo123@ro.wikipedia

Template:CU request Template:Quote I mistook the date on a previous request and thought rowiki had the data, but this is all I can find. It may be a while since your previous request that it is inaccurate or data may not be available, but if you really need a comparison, please contact Amanda directly. --Sotiale (talk) 02:45, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

维基中二群体代表@zh.wikipedia

Done. --Sotiale (talk) 23:20, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

589wesleywiki@zh.wikipedia

Template:CU request Template:Quote From a technical point of view. --Sotiale (talk) 04:04, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Jbvcy1@zh.wikipedia

Template:CU request Template:Quote From a technical point of view. --Sotiale (talk) 04:11, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Correspondentman@az.wikipedia

Unfortunately, this user has already had two previous investigation with no results; Steward_requests/Checkuser/2023-07#Elshad Iman (Elşad İman)@az.wikipedia and Steward_requests/Checkuser/2023-08#90AA123@az.wikipedia. Therefore, in order for the investigation into this user to proceed, a very persuasive explanation must be provided. I do not believe that the current explanation is sufficient to warrant new investigation, despite the previous two results. And investigating accounts without specifying a comparison target is fishing, so it is difficult to allow. Please present other comparison targets with sufficient explanation or form a community consensus regarding this investigation. --Sotiale (talk) 02:22, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

@Sotiale, I think there is an user account network and canvassing led by Elshad Iman that is interested in this articles. We (azwiki community) previously detected that Elshad Iman is creating articles for money without disclosing, such as az:Elxan Bəşirov, Beshir Imanov. Users in previous investigation were so active in AfDs about these articles on both azwiki and enwiki (sometimes trwiki too). You can see how Correspondentman is active in Elxan Bəşirov's AfD. I just noticed that one of the users (Redaksiya) who participated in aforementioned AfDs just became active and !voted in Elxan's AfD. Do not you think that this is suspicious? I can add Redaksiya to target list if you want. Nemoralis (talk) 13:34, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Combining what you said and the results of the previous 2 investigations, this may be meatpuppet, so it makes no sense to investigate with this checkuer tool. This is not a big data analysis tool, it simply checks whether it is the same user with some information including the IP remaining on the server. If they are actually different people, they won't show up as the same user. --Sotiale (talk) 13:48, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

If you need to make a request, please post again with the explanation. --Sotiale (talk) 23:35, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

24rfv2222@zh.wikipedia

Template:CU request Template:Quote From a technical point of view. --Sotiale (talk) 23:32, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

80dr@el.wikipedia

Template:CU request Template:Quote There seem to be other possibilities besides link spam. They may have edited it together at academic facilities or institutes, and in any case, specific analysis will be done locally, but in my experience, it is possible that they did not do it for spam purposes. Please handle it in accordance with local policies and guidelines. --Sotiale (talk) 23:54, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Template:Re Thanx, Sotiale. Their contributions were not of academic style, but purely commercial. Sysops at el/WP have been informed, and will decide accordingly. ǁǁǁ ǁ Chalk19 (talk) 11:03, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Tommy860119@zh.wikipedia

Template:CU request Template:Quote From a technical point of view. --Sotiale (talk) 23:48, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Redmi123465@zh.wikipedia

Template:CU request Template:Quote From a technical point of view. Unfortunately, this is the best I can do with the limited information available at this time. I think things will probably get a little better starting next week. --Sotiale (talk) 09:58, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

589wesleywiki@zh.wikipedia

Side note: previous check for comparison--$\int$（☎） 07:25, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Template:Quote From a technical point of view. --Sotiale (talk) 07:53, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Tropicalfish1123@zh.wikipedia

Template:CU request Template:Quote From a technical point of view. --Sotiale (talk) 07:59, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Tommy860119@zh.wikipedia

Template:CU request Template:Quote From a technical point of view. --Sotiale (talk) 08:08, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Template:PingDoes that mean Iris Y. Lin 0714 is Template:Unlikely related to both group 1 and group 2? Thanks again for the check.--$\int$（☎） 08:33, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Since you asked for it to be based on Tommy860119, it's based on them. --Sotiale (talk) 09:16, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, I want to ask a question. Was Ggfghhffhhgg missed and not checked? Rastinition (talk) 11:48, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Ggfghhffhhgg should be included in group 1(Ru04bp6). I missed it. There was a typo. I'm sorry. --Sotiale (talk) 12:01, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks.

By the way, Ggahsh is the account registered in the last hour.His editing on his user page made me suspect that he is group 1.Because his number of edits is still very small, is it suitable to submit Checkuser in the short term? Rastinition (talk) 12:34, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Sjsjsjjsjsjdndnjdj and Ggahsh? Any further requests should be made locally. --Sotiale (talk) 14:20, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

InternetArchiveBot123@zh.wikipedia

Template:CU request Template:Quote From a technical point of view. --Sotiale (talk) 12:38, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

LeonChow99@zh.wikipedia

Template:CU request Template:Quote From a technical point of view. --Sotiale (talk) 08:32, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

InternetArchiveBot123@zh.wikipedia

Template:CU request Template:Quote Are the behavior patterns the same? Then it would be them. It means they are the same person. --Sotiale (talk) 08:39, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

It's pretty evident that Group 1 = Group 2 from last check based on behavior patterns. I was more curious about whether it's MEAT or just pure socks. --$\int$（☎） 14:35, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

Template:PingRe-ping. --$\int$（☎） 14:36, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

Your guess is likely correct, because this tool can't capture meat. --Sotiale (talk) 22:16, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

TheDelhiBoy2@en.wikipedia

I'm pretty sure the english wikipedia has local checkusers, you should open an sock puppet investigation locally. Deauthorized (talk) 00:57, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

Template:Not done per above: the English Wikipedia has local CheckUsers. Vermont (🐿️—🏳️‍🌈) 00:58, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

Amzyzz@zh.wikipedia

Here is the list of their locked sockpuppets for your reference:

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--SCP-2000 11:19, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the accounts you listed and Amzyzz are different, at least when comparing the recent data. Maybe there's something I don't know about, but at least that's what the data says, and I'm not sure if Amzyzz is using a different account. Nevertheless the accounts listed above all had matching data. --Sotiale (talk) 13:17, 31 October 2023 (UTC)