Steward requests/Checkuser/2024-11

Requests

StrongBacking@zh.wikipedia

Template:Doing --Sotiale (talk) 04:09, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Template:Quote I think they're the guy you're thinking of. --Sotiale (talk) 04:22, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Xoqoni Said @uz.wikipedia

This is an interesting case! A user asking for themselves to be investigated! To clarify, Xhyripomius is a second account of another user. Yesterday, they explained their decision to create an alternative account, stating that they personally know many users who have abused the Content Translation tool and want to hide their identity while reporting them. We are still assessing whether this counts as sock puppetry, as in "using multiple accounts in a manner contrary to accepted community practices." If I believe it does, I will initiate a formal discussion on the local administrators' noticeboard. However, a checkuser investigation to determine whether Xhyripomius is indeed unrelated to Xoqoni Said would be helpful. Below, I provide background information and am happy to answer any additional questions.

Background

First off, there is a difference between meat puppetry and sock puppetry. I suspected Xhyripomius might be a sock of Xoqoni Said after conducting a preliminary behavior analysis of both accounts, which I outlined in the linked discussion. I provided a timeline of the two accounts' editing patterns and the circumstances surrounding Xhyripomius's sudden reappearance after a eight-month hiatus. One key event was that, on October 20, 2024, I presented irrefutable evidence that Xoqoni Said had been creating poorly machine-translated content on uzwiki. Then, on October 26, another user, @Alpasli, added Xoqoni Said to the list of confirmed machine translation creators, which we use as a tracking sheet. Notably, all of the 100+ users on this list have produced low-quality machine translations. They all became Wikimedians through Wikistipendiya. Unfortunately, most are here merely to win a share of substantial monetary prizes that have been allocated by Uzbekistan's Agency of Youth Affairs. This year the agency has allocated a whopping $29,000 for the three winning "teams" of users. By adding users to the "blacklist," we, members of the Wikimedians of the Uzbek Language User Group, aim to prevent them from claiming prizes. We've been urgning urged the agency not to reward users who have produced substandard, machine-translated content. Another interesting coincidence: less than two hours after Xhyripomius raised concern about my suspicions and threatened to report me on meta, Xoqoni Said started this very discission.

As for meat puppetry, I suspect that Xoqoni Said and @Axadjon1, both members of one of the competing "teams" for the cash prize along with Mrshaxas (on this user , see the discussion below), Panpanchik, and Anjaniy, have been coordinating their activities offline. The day after I flagged Xoqoni Said's machine translations, Axadjon1 unexpectedly pointed out what he claimed were poor translations by Alpasli — one of the few newer Wikimedians we believed at the time had not abused the Content Translation tool. Then, on 3 November 2024, Xhyripomius criticized Alpasli's work further and suggested that Alpasli be removed from the "whitelist." It's worth noting that Axadjon1, who had previously added dozens of users to the blacklist, openly refused to add his teammate Xoqoni Said.

Regarding the fact that I shared my suspicions about Xhyripomius in private Telegram groups, it's relevant to mention that Xoqoni Said himself was a member of our Telegram group until I asked the other admins to remove him on 21 October 2024. We've generally done this for users who create machine-translated content, as we regularly discuss our strategies for combating these translations in that group. It doesn't make sense to include users who have engaged in such behavior themselves. Nataev ^talk 19:47, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Dear @Nataev

I have submitted a request here to prove that I did not create a fake account and am awaiting the results. However, you are only confusing the discussion with irrelevant comments unrelated to this matter. Xoqoni Said (talk) 20:17, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

What is a "fake account"? The information I shared above is highly relevant to this case because you're currently part of a group of Wikimedians actively competing for a cash prize. And I was the one who reported to the community that you had created subpar, machine-translated content, which may put your eligibility for the prize at risk.

It's commendable that you're making an effort to demonstrate that Xhyripomius is not your second account. However, you can't accuse someone of harassment simply for pointing out real and potential issues in your editing behavior. Nataev ^talk 21:19, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Apologies. I meant to write en:Wikipedia:Sockpuppetry, but I made a mistake because I was tired yesterday. Not only have you highlighted my issues, but you've also repeatedly targeted me in the WM Telegram group, even going as far as to state definitively that this was my account( Template:Redacted). This has severely affected my mental well-being. Xoqoni Said (talk) 05:19, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

First of all, the screenshot you shared is from a private group and was never intended to be shared publicly. Additionally, the first message says, 'Someone's sock,' and the second states, 'it could be Xoqoni Said,' which was only a possibility. As I mentioned above, I openly shared my suspicion on Wikipedia. Nataev ^talk 12:33, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

Template:Xt - The screenshots I shared were taken from a private group on Telegram. This is understandable, but in this particular discussion [1], three screenshots from exactly this group were used by the user: Alpasli. In this case, neither you nor any administrator or other user raised an objection (the group was still private at the time, and only links had been exchanged). I could not find any rule explicitly stating that screenshots cannot be taken from this group, and for this reason, I concluded that taking screenshots from this group is allowed. Xoqoni Said (talk) 07:06, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

Template:Not done 1) We don't investigate users at their own request. 2) CheckUser cannot (dis)prove meatpuppetry. — JJMC89 (T·C) 09:39, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

NTUPikachu@zh.wikipedia

Template:Likely them based on previous check, all accounts are also Template:Confirmed to each other. I found a sleeper (Dk4aedrji), though nothing else found. EPIC (talk) 12:42, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

Wetrace@zh.wikipedia

I'd say it's on the border between Template:Unlikely and Template:Possible. Both users have used the same /32, but UAs are otherwise different and I see no other technical overlap. EPIC (talk) 12:42, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

TALIŞOV@az.wikipedia

Template:CU request Template:Quote --Sotiale (talk) 06:39, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

A Chinese ID@zh.wikipedia

Template:CU request Template:Quote --Sotiale (talk) 06:44, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

Template:PingJust for clarification purposes, I suppose the UA data matched as well? $\int$（☎） 07:03, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

As far as I remember, yes, and my results seem to indicate that. I think your community will be a good judge of whether they are other users, same person or meat, etc. --Sotiale (talk) 12:32, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

Mrshaxas@uz.wikipedia

Template:Ping Hi, Nataev. As you probably know, this is a page where checkuser is used to uncover relationships between accounts to find evidence of abuse. While we can't handle it here, you can contact T&S to report it to them for their ToU violation, or you may try to get a global ban on it. However, as of now, they haven't been blocked anywhere, so I'd recommend contacting T&S about the harassment you've been experiencing. Since I don't know the specifics, I recommend asking them for help. --Sotiale (talk) 06:50, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you very much! I went ahead and reported him to the T&S team. Nataev ^talk 14:30, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

RichardHornsby/TypoFixerNSW@en.wikivoyage

• Template:Confirmed. There are also some vanished accounts with contributions in several projects, vanish of which was canceled and accounts be re-locked. --Mykola 23:47, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

  Cheers, Mykola! --SHB2000 (t • c) 00:14, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

Jackyming@zh.wikipedia

Template:CU request Template:Quote From a technical point of view. Ironic result. --Sotiale (talk) 04:20, 27 November 2024 (UTC)